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Morality Police Accuse Married Couple of Being Alone Together

This is one weird story. Saw it in today’s Kuwait Times, but it is not on the online version, so I had to copy it from the Arab News website. The woman’s family and the man’s family all verified that this couple are married, but they are continually harassed by the morality police, saying they are not married.

Vice cops accused of attacking married couple in Madinah
Fatima Sidiya I Arab News

JEDDAH: A 22-year-old Saudi woman told Arab News yesterday that she and her husband of four years were stopped on a road by the religious police of Al-Jurf, west of the holy city of Madinah, accused of being an unrelated man and woman in an illegal state of seclusion (khulwa) at about 1 a.m. on Sunday.

“As we were driving home, my husband and I realized we were being followed by three men in a car,” said the woman, who did not want her name published. “They were coming from both sides of the car and (at one point in the chase) were also in front of our car. I was afraid of having an accident. The whole scene looked just like something in a movie.”

She also said that because no police officer was accompanying the three members of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, her husband was afraid to stop. Eventually, the commission vehicle got in front of the car they were pursuing and forced the couple to stop, according to the woman.

Abdullah Al-Zahrani, the head of the Madinah branch of the commission, confirmed to Arab News yesterday that the commission was tailing the couple, but he maintains that the three commission members did not abuse the suspects. He also claims that the two are not married.

“The woman is neither his wife nor his cousin,” said Al-Zahrani.

When asked if the police, in response to the woman’s complaint, had questioned the commission members over what happened early Sunday morning, he said the police did not seek any clarification. “The police did not question the commission members, as they (the commission) are a monitoring body, which hands suspects over to the police for further investigation,” he said.

The couple has filed a complaint and the Commission for Investigation and Prosecution is looking into the case.

Relatives have come out in defense of the commission’s denial that the two are married. According to the woman, a commission member told her husband: “If you bring everybody in your family to tell me she is your wife, I will not believe them. You are lying; she is not your wife.”

According to the woman, she and her husband had been visiting her husband’s family and decided to return home late at night.

After the two were pulled over, said the woman, “one of them pulled my arm and was shouting at me, telling me to get into their car. I was shocked. How could a man from the commission touch a woman when he is not her mahram (a woman’s legal male escort or guardian)? He ordered me to get into the commission car and said they would keep everything secret in order to protect my reputation.”

The commission considers unrelated men and women in cars to be committing the moral crime of khulwa.

The woman said that her husband objected to her treatment, and asked the men to take him in custody instead. At that point, the woman said an older man who happened to be passing by intervened and protested against the commission members touching a woman, “but the commission member told him that I had forced him to do so.”

The woman says that two of the commission members got into her husband’s car with her and accused her of being an immoral woman for being out late at night with an unrelated man. The members of the commission also said that the woman had committed a crime and that she therefore deserved to be punished.

“This is the first time I have seen anything like this,” she said. “One of the members was totally unreasonable and was aggressive from the start. He didn’t want to hear anything that contradicted his set ideas and beliefs. He looked to be in his late 20s. Only one of the three was rational and wanted to talk to us away from the public eye. But he then went and got into their car. The members refused to come to the police during the investigation and said that I had insulted them. I did no such thing; I simply told them over and over: ‘I swear to God that I am this man’s wife.’”

The woman said that after hearing what had happened, her brothers went to the commission branch in Al-Jurf, furious and telling the commission members to stay away from their sister.

She said a commission member then hit one of her brothers and broke his nose.

“My brother became unconscious and an ambulance came and took him to the hospital,” she said.

Then, in anger another brother erroneously went to the wrong commission center to retaliate against the attack on his brother. He was then arrested.

But the police reportedly released the two brothers after confirming their identities. The woman claims that the local police view this particular branch of the commission as problematic.

Maj. Muhsin Al-Radadi, a spokesman for the Madinah police, said that the only reports they received about this incident were about the brother who went to the incorrect commission center.

“The commission members (at Al-Azizia commission branch) were attacked in their offices by a young man,” he said, adding that he wouldn’t comment on hearsay regarding the other events.

“We were not doing anything that was remotely immoral or inappropriate,” said the woman. “Even my eyes were covered. The members shamed us in the area where we live and my husband and I cannot now go out of the house.”

She says that the incident has instilled fear in her about venturing out of the house.

“I will not go to a public place or anywhere in a car unless a lot of my family is with me,” she said.

October 8, 2008 - Posted by | Community, Family Issues, Law and Order, Living Conditions, Marriage, News, Relationships, Saudi Arabia, Social Issues, Women's Issues

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  2. Absolutely unacceptable. What a nightmare!

    jewaira's avatar Comment by jewaira | October 8, 2008 | Reply

  3. I agree, Jewaira. I admire her courage for going public. The Morality Police are scary. There is the law of the land, and then there is whatever a car full of men imagine the moral law to be. This post is also related to the Sudan post, where suddenly pants are taboo and women are beaten. It’s almost always women. Sometimes gay people. Sometimes laborers from other cultures. These bullies prey on the weaker members of society. I’m glad she showed some teeth and that her family backed her up.

    intlxpatr's avatar Comment by intlxpatr | October 9, 2008 | Reply

  4. This is extraordinary. Not that they should have to prove anything, but do Middle Easterners have any outward way of showing they are married? In the West, we wear wedding rings, which of course I know first hand that men have no idea I am married, as they try to pick me up anyway. I always try to explain to them my ring signifies marriage, and they need to leave me alone. As I read this story, it just becomes more fantastic as it goes… brother’s broken nose, another brother retaliates at the wrong commission… if it weren’t so pathetic, it would be funny.

    mimfoy's avatar Comment by mimfoy | October 9, 2008 | Reply

  5. It is pathetic. Why would the morality police (and they are not really police, they are from the Committee to Promote Virtue and Eliminate Vice – or something to that effect) a quasi-force that has more power sometimes and less other times, it’s not a part of the state. And it would be laughable if there weren’t one perfectly married couple caught in the middle. Absurd things happen often enough with legitimate authority; I just think they shouldn’t be happening with a quasi-legal force.

    intlxpatr's avatar Comment by intlxpatr | October 9, 2008 | Reply

  6. mimfoy :
    your question “do Middle Easterners have any outward way of showing they are married?”
    the answer of course we do , if you drive by a car and you see a man and a woman inside looking outside silently and in opposite direction then 99.9% they are married ,
    however if they were looking at each other and talking then 99.9% they are not . Another way when shopping if the man looks glum then the couple are married , if he is giddy then the couple are not married .

    your comment ” men have no idea I am married, as they try to pick me up anyway” hehehehehe they sure know what the ring means but i guess they will try to ring your bell. it is an obsession .

    good to see here again

    daggero's avatar Comment by daggero | October 10, 2008 | Reply

  7. Daggero, LLOOLLLL! Honestly, you would have us falling down laughing if you had your own blog. You are always welcome here.

    intlxpatr's avatar Comment by intlxpatr | October 10, 2008 | Reply


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