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John and Charles Wesley, Anglicans

“That’s not the REAL hymn” AdventureMan often says on a Sunday as we are singing. He grew up Methodist, and while the Anglican churches overseas often have tunes to hymns that differ from the American tunes, AdventureMan has a staunch loyalty to the Methodist hymns. His loyalty is so strong that he thinks they ARE Methodist hymns.

Sorry, AdventureMan. The breakaway sect that became the Methodist Church in America started under their influence, but the Wesley brothers remained Anglicans.

The Liturgical Calendar: The Church Remembers

Today the church remembers John and Charles Wesley, Priests, 1791, 1788.

John and Charles were raised together at the rectory in Epworth. They studied at Oxford, and together they were ordained into the ministry of the Church of England. Together they journeyed to America and served there as missionaries in Georgia for the Society for the Propagation of the Gospel. Together they led the great evangelical revival of the eighteenth century.
This movement attempted to foster among Christians a strong personal commitment to Jesus. Its leaders, such as John and Charles, preached and sang in the open fields, on street corners, and in the market places. They actively opposed slavery and drunkenness. John was the more impressive preacher, Charles the musician. (The Hymnal 1982 contains twenty-three of Charles’s hymns.)

The Evangelical Movement led to the formation of several religious societies. The most famous of these was the “Methodist” Society, so-called for its strict and methodical practices. Some of these societies, especially in America, separated from the English Church. John and Charles Wesley, however, did not forsake the Church of England. Their feast day would seem an appropriate time to recommit ourselves to the spread of Christ’s kingdom among all classes of people.

Lord Christ, make us ready to journey forth into the world to do your work and to praise your Name, and all for your glory. Amen.

Lord God, you inspired your servants John and Charles Wesley with burning zeal for the sanctification of souls, and endowed them with eloquence in speech and song: Kindle in your Church, we entreat you, such fervor, that those whose faith has cooled may be warmed, and those who have not known Christ may turn to him and be saved; who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and for ever. Amen.

March 3, 2014 - Posted by | Biography, Faith, Music


  1. I understand where AdventureMan is coming from. It’s just a nod to the familiar of his upbringing. You know my background but I also have Methodist and Baptist roots thru family. I, too, make the comment, sometimes to myself, sometimes to friends at worship, that we are making a nod to the Methodists or Baptists. Sometimes even the Lutheran hymns are the same words to different tunes or vice versa, depending on whether they came from the German background or the Scandinavian and I differentiate those to myself as well. Besides, you know AdventureMan is just trying to get a rise out of you anyway.

    Comment by momcatwa | March 3, 2014 | Reply

  2. J. and I were reminiscing just yesterday about settling in for church in Doha, seeing the words of a familiar hymn and being all excited to sing it….until the music began! Learned to love the Anglican versions too, of course, but it shows how deeply ingrained in our hearts and souls “our” music is! Have a great week!

    Comment by grammy | March 3, 2014 | Reply

  3. LLOOLL, you both know us so well 🙂 It just always cracks me up that he differentiates between REAL (what HE is familiar with) and . . . well, anything else, LOL.

    I find I miss the songs we sang in Doha; from time to time we will do an English melody here and I love it. I also miss the simpler tunes we sang during Prayers of the People – “Merciful Lord, in your loving kindness, hear our prayer, listen to our intercession” and I remember how when I had to drive during peak driving time, very dangerous, and go through the circles, I would sing those songs to myself. Somehow, I came through OK, no accidents, so it worked for me 🙂

    I do a bible study where we also do a lot of Baptist hymns, and I like them, too; some of them I like a lot.

    You are right Momcat; he gets a rise out of me every time.

    Comment by intlxpatr | March 3, 2014 | Reply

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