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When Iftar is not Iftar

Holy Cow! I thought there was a dispensation during Ramadan for those who are travelling, pregnant, sick, etc. But no, Qaradawi says even people living in high rises can not break the fast at the same time as those on the ground, and those in the air must watch for the sun to actually go down!

Sunset, not clock, decides Iftar time, says Qaradawi
Web posted at: 8/25/2009 4:19:40
Source ::: THE PENINSULA

DOHA: Islamic scholar Dr Yousuf Al Qaradawi has urged people while travelling to follow the sun’s position for breaking the fast. Most air travellers currently break their fast as per the timings on the ground.

“The people on flights should break the fast according to sunset, not according to the ground timings,” an Arabic daily reported Qaradawi as saying.

Qaradawi was shocked when a pilot on a Qatar Airways flight from Cairo to Doha announced Iftar time when the sun had still not set. The reason given was that it was prayer time on

the ground.

Qaradawi told his co-passengers that the time for Iftar was yet to come and asked them whether they could offer Maghreb prayers at that time. Most of the people on board agreed with him. The first class passengers did not break their fast but many in the economy class had had their Iftar. When he told them they need to compensate for the day’s fast, some started to cry.

“The mistake is not of the people, it was because the airline had announced it. People should not blindly follow any direction while fasting, they should ensure the right time has come,” he said.

He said that even people living in elevated areas, including highrises, should not follow what people on the ground do.

August 25, 2009 - Posted by | News, Ramadan, Spiritual, Technical Issue

10 Comments »

  1. Intlxpatr ;
    You are right , there is the special dispensation for travelers not to fast , However if they choose to fast then they must break their fast when the sun actually set .

    Moral of the story Qatar Airways owe their passengers an apology for the screw up of their pilot and a free ticket to Cairo and back will also be nice dont you think .

    Daggero's avatar Comment by Daggero | August 25, 2009 | Reply

  2. LLOOLLL, Daggero, yes, it would be appropriate. So all those people have to make up the fast day?

    intlxpatr's avatar Comment by intlxpatr | August 25, 2009 | Reply

  3. Intlxpatr ;

    I guess the people who ate before sunset have to make up the day .

    There is a(hadith) saying of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) that God loves for us when we take his dispensations same as when we abide by his restrictions .

    Dispensations are given to lighten up the Load of fasting in strenuous circumstance such as sickness ,travel ,hard labor…etc

    I tried one time to fast while traveling to the far east ,but mid day i could not handle it because of the jet lag so i had to breakfast and make it up after Ramadan when i got back home .

    Daggero's avatar Comment by Daggero | August 25, 2009 | Reply

  4. God/Allah is merciful, to allow dispensations that can be made up later. Daggero, isn’t there also a hadith that when it is time to break the fast, you must break it promptly, that there is no additional holiness that can be earned by postponing eating and that on the contrary, fasting Moslems are to break the fast as soon as it is allowed?

    intlxpatr's avatar Comment by intlxpatr | August 26, 2009 | Reply

  5. Intlxpatr :

    here is the Hadith to promptly break the Fast:

    قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم : لا تزال أمتي بخير ما عجّلوا الإفطار وأخّروا السحور

    here is my translation
    The Prophet (PBUH) said :

    My Nation (followers) are in the Good (well) as long as they are early (promptly ) to break their fast and delay their Sahour ( last meal before commencing fasting)

    What it means to me

    No need to extend the fasting when beyond the start of the Maghreb (sunset ) prayer call (Athan ) but also no need to jump the Gun .

    Here is a clip of the Traditional Iftar canon in Naif Palace Kuwait city (It is a bit lengthy sorry for that )

    i hope you enjoy it

    Daggero's avatar Comment by Daggero | August 26, 2009 | Reply

  6. Wow. Daggero, I watched the whole thing. At first, I wondered, “is this Kuwait?” but then I saw the flags and I knew that it was. Do you have to be invited? Could a non-Muslim attend? It looks like a very cool thing to see. Thank you!

    intlxpatr's avatar Comment by intlxpatr | August 26, 2009 | Reply

  7. Intlxpatr ; glad you like the clip ,

    I haven’t been there my self but it looks like you just go there , Muslims and Non Muslims are OK to attend.It is a traditional thing not a religious occasion .

    There is a youtube clip about Ramadan canon firing in Doha ,Qatar but it doesn’t seem as elaborate as the one in Kuwait .

    Daggero's avatar Comment by Daggero | August 26, 2009 | Reply

  8. Daggero, if you ever get a chance to be in Fintas around call to prayer time, be near the Egaila family park, and listen. My husband and I miss “our” meuzzin; his call to prayer is the most beautiful I have ever heard. The one nearest to us now is sincere, but flat.

    intlxpatr's avatar Comment by intlxpatr | August 26, 2009 | Reply

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  10. très bon site web

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